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Post  nkrichards on Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:40 am

Sincere apologies for the delay in reporting the results of the MAC Dash.  I headed off early the next morning for a week in Yellowstone and Grand Teton NP with Izzy (age 12, the middle of Gary's three girls).  More details in the next post but for now I'll just say that we had a wonderful trip.

So the Dash...I WON!...well sort of.  I was the fastest female from Jefferson County.  They give an award to the overall male/female winners and also an award to the local male/female winners.  They moved the race up to August as the September date conflicted with another big event a couple hours away.  They accomplished their goal of attracting a few more out of town participants but lost several local participants.  

My time wasn't actually very good but I knew going in that I wasn't in top shape and my goal was to make sure that I kept things at an appropriate pace...and make sure I finished in under 1:30.  My swim was only a few seconds slower than last year.  The bike leg was decent.  I was a bit disappointed in the run leg but that's what I expected.  I beat Gary by 13 seconds. :cheers:  Natalie had a great first tri experience and far exceeded her goals.  Owen and Royce had a great time in the Mini MAC.  It was a really fun day.

1:26:44 Finish time
21/51 Overall
6/27 Female
1/3 Age group

Historical times:
2008   1:29:53
2009   1:24:45 (Jefferson County female winner)
2010   1:23:01
2011   1:25:56
2012   1:21:46
2013   1:20:27
2014   1:22:44
2015   1:28:21  (5 months after my cardiac event)
2016   1:21:44
2017   1:22:36
2018   1:26:44

My 2013 PR coordinates with my BQ year.  Just missed a sub 1:20 finish and also came close but missed a sub 4 hour marathon that year.  Looks to me like that was my peak and I'm going to have to accept the fact that old age and cardiac damage is a fact of life.

Still struggling to figure out what I want to do next but I did have a lot of fun on race day!
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Post  ounce on Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:18 am

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Congratulations, Nancy!  A win is a win.  Endorsement deals are NEXT!!

And you had a really good time, too.  Maybe that's a goal race to consider.  Hopefully, the race director and the retained earnings of the MACdash can work off the kudos of the out of town people to get entrants up in the years to come.  You might also work on the locals.

Yellowstone is one park I'd like to see, although I think I'd like to go in the wintertime or almost wintertime.  Living in Houston, I just don't see snow enough.
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Post  Mark B on Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:22 pm

Woot! Congratulations, speedy! That's a great result.

I'd say you may have found an answer to what you want to do next: HAVE FUN

You may or may not ever be as speedy as you were back in BQ days, but there's nothing that says you can't find enjoyable, challenging races, train well and have a great time. Sounds like a pretty great thing, actually.

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Post  nkrichards on Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:52 pm

@ounce wrote:cheers
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Congratulations, Nancy!  A win is a win.  Endorsement deals are NEXT!!

And you had a really good time, too.  Maybe that's a goal race to consider.  Hopefully, the race director and the retained earnings of the MACdash can work off the kudos of the out of town people to get entrants up in the years to come.  You might also work on the locals.

Yellowstone is one park I'd like to see, although I think I'd like to go in the wintertime or almost wintertime.  Living in Houston, I just don't see snow enough.

@Mark B wrote:Woot! Congratulations, speedy! That's a great result.

I'd say you may have found an answer to what you want to do next: HAVE FUN

You may or may not ever be as speedy as you were back in BQ days, but there's nothing that says you can't find enjoyable, challenging races, train well and have a great time. Sounds like a pretty great thing, actually.

Thanks!  It's funny...it wasn't a fast result at all...even for me...but I guess as Michele says, it's all about who shows up that day.

It is kind of interesting...this wasn't a fast race but I had a lot of fun.  And my 70.3 wasn't fast either and I enjoyed it immensely.  Maybe Dr. Beckerman was right...I should run for the enjoyment not the time.  

Another interesting take away from this event.  I had a decent swim and bike time.  It was the run where I really struggled.  Why does it seem to be running that's been the hardest since my cardiac event?  Is it just that I don't have fast swim and bike times pre-cardiac event to compare my current times to?  Is running actually harder?  Are my slower run times age related or cardiac related?

Speaking of Dr. Beckerman...I had a blood draw a couple weeks ago and finally connected with Dr. B to review the results.  He's quite pleased with both the cholesterol numbers and the liver function numbers so is going to allow me to stay at 15 mg of Atorvastatin.  Good news!

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I haven't felt the greatest.  I really dialed back on training after the 70.3 so I could spend time doing things with friends and family this summer.  It's been nice.  I've tried to maintain at least enough activity to maintain a decent level of fitness.  I'm struggling though...I'm often stiff and sore after a pretty easy workout.  I'm not sure if it's the result of overtraining for the 70.3 and I need a bit more recovery time or if I'm not doing enough.  I seem to feel better after I workout...it's just hard to get started.  

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Post  Mark B on Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:50 pm

Sounds like you may have overtrained a bit for the 70.3. Make sure to take it slow on the recovery, because the last thing you want is to push your body in a situation like that. If you do, you may end up feeling the air going out of your tires like it did to me a few years ago. It took a long time to get the mojo back. So rest! Relax! Have fun! Walk! Be active, but don't train. It'll be worth it.

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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:07 pm

I can answer that - it's between the ears and you may never get over that - so as they say in that annoying Disney movie in the snow - "Let it go!"

Anyway, Congrats on the win!  And it is indeed about who shows up, but it is also about getting to the starting line and the finish line upright, proud and smiling!

I was just looking at the entries for Augusta and damn if I didn't see the name of a long time running rival.  My first reaction was, "Shit, when did she turn 55!".  My second however was - who cares, it is about me, my time and the course and how well I can execute my race (weather permitting make a good time) - not her or her race.  So thankful that we will have a "rolling start" like they did in Victoria - so I'll only ever see her when we rack our bikes.
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Post  nkrichards on Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:55 am

@Mark B wrote:Sounds like you may have overtrained a bit for the 70.3. Make sure to take it slow on the recovery, because the last thing you want is to push your body in a situation like that. If you do, you may end up feeling the air going out of your tires like it did to me a few years ago. It took a long time to get the mojo back. So rest! Relax! Have fun! Walk! Be active, but don't train. It'll be worth it.

Michele \"1L" Keane wrote:I can answer that - it's between the ears and you may never get over that - so as they say in that annoying Disney movie in the snow - "Let it go!"

Anyway, Congrats on the win!  And it is indeed about who shows up, but it is also about getting to the starting line and the finish line upright, proud and smiling!

I was just looking at the entries for Augusta and damn if I didn't see the name of a long time running rival.  My first reaction was, "Shit, when did she turn 55!".  My second however was - who cares, it is about me, my time and the course and how well I can execute my race (weather permitting make a good time) - not her or her race.  So thankful that we will have a "rolling start" like they did in Victoria - so I'll only ever see her when we rack our bikes.
Well...not sure who's advice I like best. Shocked

So I think I'll follow both.  I'm going to start slow and easy per Mark's suggestion but I am going to get back on track, choose a goal and work toward it.  Thanks for the kick in the butt Michele!

btw...you'll do fine in Augusta.  You know the course and knowing you you're prepared so give it hell and let us know how it goes!

Heading out for a social kayaking trip today so I'll update more here later...
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Post  nkrichards on Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:57 am

Quick update before I head out to rake and then bale hay today.

Social kayaking trip went well.  It was a 9 mile float downstream so not to tough.  I was the token farmer in a group of environmentalists.  My role was to answer questions and put a face to the farmers who are giving up water to help the Spotted Frogs.  They asked good questions and my answers were well received.  The organizer wanted her members to realize that we (farmers) are people just like them who are trying to raise our families.

Finished up the last couple sessions of Beachbody.  They were tough!  Marty did the workouts with me that last week and we're considering starting the 8 week session over and doing it together.  He wants to prepare for his elk hunting trip.

Friday afternoon I headed to Crater Lake for a bike ride.  Saturday was a car free day on the east rim drive with well supported rest stops.  A group of 6 of us from Madras had plans to meet at Park Headquarters, ride the 9 mile section (with cars) first and then finish up with the car free section.  Katie and her boyfriend, Ken drove me down and we spent the night in a cabin at Diamond Lake.  We headed to the meeting spot the next morning...and my car broke down...10 miles from Park Headquarters.  I didn't have cell service but Ken was able to make a call to AAA and get a tow truck coming.  I wasn't able to contact my Madras friends so I unloaded my bike and gear and planned to bike to a spot on the bike route where I could meet up with them...hoping they wouldn't wait to long for me at Park Headquarters.  Just before I was ready to take off Lucas and Christine drove by in their van...and brake lights came on...they pick me up and we said good-bye to Katie and headed off to meed the others.  Katie and Ken rode home with the tow truck driver and my car is sitting at the dealership in Madras.  We'll get a diagnosis on Monday.  My bike is coming home with Lucas and Christine via Eugene and I rode home with another couple.  They had room for me but not for my bike.

The ride was awesome.  I ended up with 32 miles and just over 4000' of ascent...and descent.  I was the least experienced rider in the group but did well on the ascents...was a bit nervous on the descents and hung back a bit.  42 mph is way to fast for me on bumpy winding roads!  But the views were awesome, the weather was gorgeous, and it was a great day with friends.  I heard there were 3000 cyclists there!

We're going to be pretty busy on the farm for the next couple weeks.  I'll try to get to swimming and Pilates when I can.  If Marty wants to and has time we'll squeeze in a workout together.  I'll run a bit when I have time.  And I'll make some decisions about what I want to do next and how to get there...

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Post  ounce on Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:30 pm

I was intrigued the environmentalists came to the conclusion that you put your pants on just like they do.  There are SO many other groups could come to the same conclusion, if they'd hold back on drinking their Kool Aid.  Let me pass the joint back to you, so we can share that fantasy.

Great on your bike ride.  42 mph sounds really cool, but not so much on a bumpy road.  But cool!

How's the legal matter going?
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Post  nkrichards on Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:08 pm

@ounce wrote:I was intrigued the environmentalists came to the conclusion that you put your pants on just like they do.  There are SO many other groups could come to the same conclusion, if they'd hold back on drinking their Kool Aid.  Let me pass the joint back to you, so we can share that fantasy.

Great on your bike ride.  42 mph sounds really cool, but not so much on a bumpy road.  But cool!

How's the legal matter going?
We've met some great people during the Spotted Frog water issue.  Some have become advocates for us (irrigators) once they realize that we're following the rules, trying to conserve as much as possible even when it requires expensive improvements and that we're real people with families just like them.  Others will never be swayed.  The most frustrating group are the folks who make money from fighting us in court and don't really care about the frog at all.  We're farmers...we'll make do.

The land use issue is exactly where we thought it would be.  The commissioners voted to approve even though the applicant didn't provide the information that LUBA said was missing.  They voted on their desire to build more houses not the facts of the case.  We thought one commissioner might go our way but I think she realized it was a waste of her vote so why rock the boat.  Sad.  Anyway, we're going back to LUBA as expected but are relatively confident that we'll prevail...nothing is ever for sure in this life.

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Oh yeah...this is a running blog...

So I don't think wandering aimlessly is a good option for me.  I think I need goals and a plan.  The question is what should my next goal be and how should I go about achieving that goal.  I have really enjoyed trying new things...the century bike ride shortly after my cardiac event, my first open water swim, my first 70.3, group bike rides...but I must admit that I do miss running with a goal race in mind.  In some ways new activities are great as I don't have a time/pace to compare to so I can set...and achieve... appropriate goals.  But I do miss the competitiveness of actually racing a distance that I've raced before even if it means I may be slightly...or very...disappointed with my finish time.

Swimming:

  • I'm not a great swimmer but I do enjoy it.
  • I've been swimming pretty consistently even this summer while I took a step back from training.
  • It's a great year round activity.
  • It's a great recovery workout for me even if when it's a long hard workout.
  • I belong to a masters group that helps keep me accountable and provides workouts.
  • Possible goals



  • Participate in a masters swim meet...race... What a Face
  • www.hoodriver.org/roy-webster-cross-channel-swim/  Swim across the Columbia River.  1.1 miles but with current and wind/waves.  Looks like a group from Madras may be swimming this on Labor Day next year.  It will be harder to get in open water swim practice now that Maura has moved to DC but if a group is doing this we'll get it done.



Biking:

  • I'm getting better on my bike but I'm still often out of my comfort zone especially on narrow busy roads.
  • I didn't bike much at all after my 70.3 until I realized that I was signed up to Ride the Rim and only had two weeks to get back into biking shape!
  • I may be able to ride with Fanny and others occasionally but the group I was riding with dismantled.  Coach Sara threatened to sell her bike part way through 70.3 training and Maura moved to DC.  Fanny is a great riding partner but our schedules don't coincide very often and she often rides off road.  I don't have the correct bike or the desire to ride off road.  Opportunities for group rides will be rare and harder to schedule.
  • Biking makes Marty very nervous.
  • Possible goals


Running:

  • I've done very little running since the 70.3 especially the last few weeks.  I miss it.
  • Running has been the most difficult activity since my cardiac event.
  • I don't do well training/running with groups so it's going to have to be step out the door solo.
  • Running off road is not an option unless it is with a group so not really viable.
  • Possible goals


Triathlon:

  • I love triathlon but...
  • I lost my training buddies.
  • Training is very time consuming.
  • It's kind of expensive.
  • Possible goals


Core/Strength

  • I put significantly more hours into core and strength training than I did into any one of the other activities this year.
  • I think it's a really important part of training and of life in general.
  • I have options for group classes that I enjoy.  
  • Natalie's Beachbody online classes and Facebook group was fun but I'm not convinced that I want to make a big commitment to that again.  I'm the token Gramma and I feel awkward sometimes...but not always.  Undecided.
  • This is something that Marty likes to do with me during the winter months when he isn't so busy.
  • No matter what other goal(s) I choose this will be a big part of it...just not sure exactly how it will fit in.



OK...enough for today.  It helped to put some of my thoughts in writing.  I'll take a bit of time to think about it and come up with a rough plan.


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Post  nkrichards on Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:58 pm

Well the bad news is my blogging updates have been embarrassingly few and far between.

The good news is that I have been training and that training has included running! Running

So...a few things happened after my last post.

  • I wasn't feeling great...mentally or physically.  Marty who is often frustrated by the amount of time I spend on run/bike/swim training noticed and mentioned that I hadn't been running much at all lately.  He wondered if that could be part of the reason I wasn't feeling great.
  • I read a very inspiring story about Kipchoge in the Bend paper.  It was published on Saturday before the race but I didn't get around to reading it until after the race.  It contained a couple interesting quotes that got me motivated to try a bit harder.
  • What started as kind of a joke has taken hold.  A group of swimmers from Madras have decided to train for the www.hoodriver.org/roy-webster-cross-channel-swim/ Tim has already adjusted our workouts with that goal in mind.  I've started working on alternate breathing so I can breathe on either side depending on the wind/waves.  Janice (age 72 and legally blind) is nearly as strong a swimmer as I am but obviously would have sighting issues on the river.  She's considering looking into swimming it with a guide.  I have a house reserved for the group.  It's a long way off but I think it will be a fun challenge and the fact that we have a group interested in doing it together really sounds like fun!
  • Registration for Dr. Beckerman's Heart Breaker Half opened up.  The race is Feb 17th.


Goals are starting to fall into place.  

I don't remember if I mentioned that I contacted the triathlon club in Tasmania inquiring about the possibility of training with them when we're there in January.  They were super welcoming and invited me to bring my wetsuit and join them for an ocean swim and even offered to loan me a bike so I wouldn't have to rent one.  But I realized that with the hiking I have scheduled I don't even have a full two weeks open.  I may try to join them for a training swim...in the pool...or a training run if it works out.  I don't think I'll mess with a bike.  I'm hoping I can volunteer at a race.  I plan to put off scheduling another 70.3 for a while and concentrate a bit more on running.  With the traveling that we'll be doing I think that makes the most sense.  I can run anywhere and it doesn't take much gear.  And the weather should be perfect!  I'm not really planning on racing hard in the half in February but won't rule it out if I'm feeling ready.

And I'm going to be spending a fair bit of time working on my swimming.  We're talking about a couple open water swims to prepare.  There is a swim in Foster Lake (Sweet Home) and a weekend of swimming at Elk Lake near Bend that we may go to as a group.  (Mark will know where those lakes are...they only 2-3 hours drive from Madras)

And I'm going to keep working on core and strength.  Sara's Pilates class is going strong again and it's still an option to participate in Natalie's Beachbody group.  Marty in interested in working out with me as soon as things slow down a bit more on the farm.

In summary...

  • gradually work my way back into running...I'm trying hard to keep things at an easy effort for the first few weeks
  • swim
  • core/strength


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So here's what my week looked like.

Monday

  • Run 3.25 w/3 @ 12:03 HR 152
  • Swim 2150 yards
  • Beachbody Speed 25 (cardio)

Tuesday

  • Pilates
  • Run 3.25 w/3 @ 11:58 HR 147
  • Beachbody Strength 25 + Core

Wednesday

  • Swim 2450 yds all fins
  • Beachbody Pilates

Thursday

  • Pilates
  • Run 3.25 w/3 @ 11:42 HR 146
  • Beachbody PiYo Buns

Friday

  • Swim 1900 yds
  • Beachbody Dirty 30 (weights)

Saturday 

  • Run 5.25 w/5 @ 11:56 HR 142

Sunday is a planned rest day

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Pretty obvious that running was tough the first couple days but I felt more comfortable as the week progressed and it showed in my average HR.  Next week is going to be hectic on the farm and I have a board training in Sunriver on Tuesday afternoon/Wednesday morning so it's going to be a forced step back week but that's OK.  As I mentioned the goal is to keep the running easy and add strides when I feel ready.

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Post  nkrichards on Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:02 am

I'm at a Farm Service Agency board training in Sunriver.  We finished up at 5:00 last night so I thought I'd check into my room and go for a quick run before dinner.  I took a wrong turn.  6 miles later I arrived back to my room in the dark.  Razz   I had a late dinner.  On the bright side it was an awesome run mostly along the river and the golf course.

Up early to get my Beachbody workout in before we meet again this morning.

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Post  ounce on Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:14 pm

Amazing how no goals turns into goals, isn't it?  Good luck with them!
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Post  Mark B on Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:21 am

Ah, running in Sunriver. I had one of the best runs of my life there, many years ago. There's just something about that place. *Sigh*

Wow, so much for wandering aimlessly! Those are some great goals, and best of all, they look like a lot of fun, too. 

I think Marty is a very observant husband. I'd suggest keeping him.

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Post  nkrichards on Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:58 am

@ounce wrote:Amazing how no goals turns into goals, isn't it?  Good luck with them!

@Mark B wrote:Ah, running in Sunriver. I had one of the best runs of my life there, many years ago. There's just something about that place. *Sigh*

Wow, so much for wandering aimlessly! Those are some great goals, and best of all, they look like a lot of fun, too. 

I think Marty is a very observant husband. I'd suggest keeping him.

Onward!

Yup...goals are starting to come together.   Very Happy

Sunriver was an awesome place to run!  And then...wait for it...Marty and I had a bit of a break from farming and headed to Camp Sherman for dinner and an overnight stay with my brother and his wife in a cabin there.  After breakfast the next morning they headed off to do their thing and Marty and I headed up to the summit of Black Butte.  Short...4 miles RT but challenging 1600' elevation hike.  It was cloudy so we couldn't see the mountains in the distance but we had a good view of the valley.  It was a nice break and fun to spend some time together!  Marty's hoping to get in some core/strength work and more hiking as he gets ready for elk hunting in early November.

So after me accidental longer run in Sunriver:

  • Wed - Beachbody
  • Thur - Swim 1550 yds, BB
  • Fri - 5.25 mi, BB
  • Sat - 5.5 mi
  • Sun - Hike, BB
  • Mon - 3.75 mi, BB
  • Tue - 5.25 mi


My runs were gradually getting faster...because I could.  I realized that my HR was higher that I'd like and that if I was going to run more often/longer it wasn't sustainable.  My Monday run was @ 10:58 with an avg HR of 150...oops.  Dialed it back yesterday to an 11:40 pace and kept the HR at 141...much better.  Very Happy  I'll add in some strides in a few days.

Off to the pool this morning...
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Post  ounce on Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:12 pm

Don't you figure Marty will come back either being 'easier getting around' or 'no worse' after the elk trip?  All this exercising with his main squeeze might be showing tangible evidence of being worthwhile.

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Post  nkrichards on Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:23 am

Quick post before I head to the airport for a trip to Canada with Mom and Katie.  Mom's always wanted to ride the train through the Fraser River canyon in BC and we're doing that and also taking her to Banff and Lake Louise.

We had the three boys on Mon & Tuesday and again Saturday and Sunday.  Still managed to stay active including hiking with the other half.   Very Happy

So since I last posted...


  • Wed - Swim 2000 yds, Hike Tam-a-lau trail at Lake Billy Chinook 4 miles w/922' elevation
  • Thur - Run 5.25 w/5 @ 11:50 AVG HR 137  Approval, BB shoulders
  • Fri - Swim 1900 yds, BB Legs
  • Sat - Run 4.25 w/4 @ 10:40 AVG HR 143, BB chest/triceps
  • Sun - Hike Tam-a-lau loop  6.7 mi w/1205 elevation gain
  • Mon - Up early for BB Back/biceps before heading to the airport.


I'll check in when I get back home...
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@nkrichards wrote:Quick post before I head to the airport for a trip to Canada with Mom and Katie.  Mom's always wanted to ride the train through the Fraser River canyon in BC and we're doing that and also taking her to Banff and Lake Louise.

We had the three boys on Mon & Tuesday and again Saturday and Sunday.  Still managed to stay active including hiking with the other half.   Very Happy

So since I last posted...


  • Wed - Swim 2000 yds, Hike Tam-a-lau trail at Lake Billy Chinook 4 miles w/922' elevation
  • Thur - Run 5.25 w/5 @ 11:50 AVG HR 137  Approval, BB shoulders
  • Fri - Swim 1900 yds, BB Legs
  • Sat - Run 4.25 w/4 @ 10:40 AVG HR 143, BB chest/triceps
  • Sun - Hike Tam-a-lau loop  6.7 mi w/1205 elevation gain
  • Mon - Up early for BB Back/biceps before heading to the airport.


I'll check in when I get back home...
I would love to take a train ride through the Rockies, either through like Montana to Seattle or Portland or a train through the Colorado part.  Just have to do some research on when and whether to do some stops to hike or just nose around.

Good luck on the trip!
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