To BQ or not to BQ that is the question!

Chris M wrote:I was there yesterday in Philly watching you cross the finish line. You had more left. 3:15 is within reach. Right Now. If I'm you, I'd rather go for the BQ with a 20% chance of success and an 80% possibility of missing and even potentially blowing a PR than do the safe thing and go for the 80% chance of a PR (but non BQ) time.

I think this line of thinking is why we both let Dave abuse us.

And I couldn't possibly agree with this any more.

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Love it.

Seems consensus is GO FOR IT. Hate to let you all down. Lol to be continued...

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This is awesome John!!! I love it!!

Develop a strategy that gives you a chance at it but isn't going "all in."

In other words, split the first half in 1:38-39. That is fast enough to keep 3:15:59 in play. But its also smart enough that I don't think you're risking a big blow up. As Matt said, you're fit enough that I don't see a complete collapse happening. If you lose a few minutes in the final 10k because you werent ready for 3:15, you should still come in with a PR.

Dave-O wrote:Develop a strategy that gives you a chance at it but isn't going "all in."

In other words, split the first half in 1:38-39. That is fast enough to keep 3:15:59 in play. But its also smart enough that I don't think you're risking a big blow up. As Matt said, you're fit enough that I don't see a complete collapse happening. If you lose a few minutes in the final 10k because you werent ready for 3:15, you should still come in with a PR.

Im 3:27:55 sub 3:20 should be well with in reach if I shoot for 3:15 I can see sub 3:20 go bye bye. But then again I have philly 5 weeks later to bounce back possibly.

I will most likely plan on 3:15 and adjust as I run. I think I know when imploding is about to come (sometimes).

Kenny B. wrote:

Dave-O wrote:Develop a strategy that gives you a chance at it but isn't going "all in."

In other words, split the first half in 1:38-39. That is fast enough to keep 3:15:59 in play. But its also smart enough that I don't think you're risking a big blow up. As Matt said, you're fit enough that I don't see a complete collapse happening. If you lose a few minutes in the final 10k because you werent ready for 3:15, you should still come in with a PR.

Im 3:27:55 sub 3:20 should be well with in reach if I shoot for 3:15 I can see sub 3:20 go bye bye. But then again I have philly 5 weeks later to bounce back possibly.

I will most likely plan on 3:15 and adjust as I run. I think I know when imploding is about to come (sometimes).

I never buy that 5, 6 or whatever weeks to bounce back idea. If you do, you just never really know how to race.

Jerry wrote:

Kenny B. wrote:

Dave-O wrote:Develop a strategy that gives you a chance at it but isn't going "all in."

In other words, split the first half in 1:38-39. That is fast enough to keep 3:15:59 in play. But its also smart enough that I don't think you're risking a big blow up. As Matt said, you're fit enough that I don't see a complete collapse happening. If you lose a few minutes in the final 10k because you werent ready for 3:15, you should still come in with a PR.

Im 3:27:55 sub 3:20 should be well with in reach if I shoot for 3:15 I can see sub 3:20 go bye bye. But then again I have philly 5 weeks later to bounce back possibly.

I will most likely plan on 3:15 and adjust as I run. I think I know when imploding is about to come (sometimes).

I never buy that 5, 6 or whatever weeks to bounce back idea. If you do, you just never really know how to race.

Yeah...isn't race day supposed to be an all out effort??

Kenny, I was shooting for 3:14 this spring and my blow up resulted in just under 3:17. You're in good enough shape that you shouldn't end up any worse that what I did if conditions are good. Remember what I told you about a month or so ago? The workouts you were doing were falling pretty much right in line with what I was doing this spring leading up to my marathon. I have very little doubt that you're in shape to run 3:15. I know I was and just got kiboshed by the weather.

Nick Morris wrote:

Jerry wrote:

I never buy that 5, 6 or whatever weeks to bounce back idea. If you do, you just never really know how to race.

Yeah...isn't race day supposed to be an all out effort??

You mean you can't run 'all out' with 5 weeks between races?