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Re: Trails and Travails
Yeah I remember those smog test from living out there.
Great 21 mile runs yesterday Mike, I know the feeling of not wanting to lace up the shoes and go out and run. Those are the times that I find the hardest part is getting out the door and then getting the first few miles in.
I feel that when we have that feeling and we still get out the door and get it done will serve as well come ultra race day. There is no doubt that we will have moments like that during a race and by getting through the times of training will only allow us to move forward when it gets tough on the trail.
Have a great run today and congrats on getting over the 90 mile mark for the week. Can I just say "AWESOME"!
Also I love reading your run reports, sure wish I could write like you. Funny story about the snake.
Great 21 mile runs yesterday Mike, I know the feeling of not wanting to lace up the shoes and go out and run. Those are the times that I find the hardest part is getting out the door and then getting the first few miles in.
I feel that when we have that feeling and we still get out the door and get it done will serve as well come ultra race day. There is no doubt that we will have moments like that during a race and by getting through the times of training will only allow us to move forward when it gets tough on the trail.
Have a great run today and congrats on getting over the 90 mile mark for the week. Can I just say "AWESOME"!
Also I love reading your run reports, sure wish I could write like you. Funny story about the snake.
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We do smog tests in Atlanta as well - our traffic sucks so bad that we have smog alert days when they advise you not to go outside during a certain time period in the afternoon.
Tough run, Mike - but you did it.
Tough run, Mike - but you did it.
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Julie - Yep, same breakfast as always: 1/2c rolled oats, mashed banana, tbsp flax, tbsp protein powder, tons of cinnamon. Soy latte on the side. And I brought some food with me.
You're absolutely right, Schuey. I've heard that the 50-miler doesn't really start until the last 20 miles, and I'm positive that's a reference to the mental fortitude it'll require when you realize that yeah, you've done thirty, but you still have TWENTY to go.
Thanks! I don't have my computer here (still at Aileen's), but I think I hit 90 with my run today. And I wasn't shooting for much over 80 this week!
Michele - Wow, that must be reaaaally bad. We don't get those days down here, and I don't even think LA does. Still, some days are definitely worse than others.
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Anyone want to know the best way to kill a hangover, in my opinion? Morning sex. But if your significant other basically looks at you like "try it and I'll fucking kill you," the next best thing, apparently, is a long-ass run.
I was actually excited about this one. I think it was just the change in scenery, and the fact that I knew it was dead flat, so I could run some even splits and break the run into feasible sections. I followed my 7mph, 7.5mph, 8mph plan, completing the first two hours about 25 seconds fast (each), so the run ended up being 18.66 instead of 18.5. I'll take it. HR for the first hour averaged 133, second hour 141, last half hour 154. Yeah, a bit of drift. But for not great sleep the last couple days and the last run of a 90 mile stretch, I'll write it off as expected.
Like I said above, I think I got in 90 this week. Exciting! Hoping to break 100 by the end of August.
Schuey wrote:I feel that when we have that feeling and we still get out the door and get it done will serve as well come ultra race day. There is no doubt that we will have moments like that during a race and by getting through the times of training will only allow us to move forward when it gets tough on the trail.
Have a great run today and congrats on getting over the 90 mile mark for the week. Can I just say "AWESOME"!
Also I love reading your run reports, sure wish I could write like you. Funny story about the snake.
You're absolutely right, Schuey. I've heard that the 50-miler doesn't really start until the last 20 miles, and I'm positive that's a reference to the mental fortitude it'll require when you realize that yeah, you've done thirty, but you still have TWENTY to go.
Thanks! I don't have my computer here (still at Aileen's), but I think I hit 90 with my run today. And I wasn't shooting for much over 80 this week!
Michele - Wow, that must be reaaaally bad. We don't get those days down here, and I don't even think LA does. Still, some days are definitely worse than others.
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Anyone want to know the best way to kill a hangover, in my opinion? Morning sex. But if your significant other basically looks at you like "try it and I'll fucking kill you," the next best thing, apparently, is a long-ass run.
I was actually excited about this one. I think it was just the change in scenery, and the fact that I knew it was dead flat, so I could run some even splits and break the run into feasible sections. I followed my 7mph, 7.5mph, 8mph plan, completing the first two hours about 25 seconds fast (each), so the run ended up being 18.66 instead of 18.5. I'll take it. HR for the first hour averaged 133, second hour 141, last half hour 154. Yeah, a bit of drift. But for not great sleep the last couple days and the last run of a 90 mile stretch, I'll write it off as expected.
Like I said above, I think I got in 90 this week. Exciting! Hoping to break 100 by the end of August.
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I know this is a little tardy, but that Grand Canyon run sounded like a grand adventure. Is an R2R in your future?
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Mark - I'm going to say no for now, but I wouldn't be too surprised to find myself thinking R2R2R sometime in 2013.
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Guess the cure-for-a-hangover comment found and tiptoed over the line. Note to self...
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5.07 recovery just now. Legs are surprisingly fresh, just a little tight. I could've gone way harder than I did, but eh, I'll save it for tomorrow's MP and Wednesday's GA. 4 more recovery tonight.
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Guess the cure-for-a-hangover comment found and tiptoed over the line. Note to self...
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5.07 recovery just now. Legs are surprisingly fresh, just a little tight. I could've gone way harder than I did, but eh, I'll save it for tomorrow's MP and Wednesday's GA. 4 more recovery tonight.
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[quote="Mike MacLellan"]Guess the cure-for-a-hangover comment found and tiptoed over the line. Note to self...
I Thought it was funny and gave me a good laugh, Mike.
Also congrats on the great week of training.
carry on.
I Thought it was funny and gave me a good laugh, Mike.
Also congrats on the great week of training.
carry on.
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Schuey wrote: I Thought it was funny and gave me a good laugh, Mike.
I agree, I thought it was funny!
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Another great week in the books, Mike. That was a great picture - I can envision you chugging up the hill. I haven't done a three hour run in a while, and only a few ever at that - still sounds intimidating.... I remember the smogging stuff from when I lived in San Diego (mid 90s). If only I had known then what I know now about running, San Diego would of been a neat place to run/ride/swim!
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Glad the Schueys liked it
John - SD is AWESOME for running and cycling. Wish I had done more of it myself when I was down there for school.
Kenny - Thanks! I'm surprising myself with how well I'm handling these high mile weeks. Knock on wood.
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4 grinding "recovery" miles tonight. Pace felt harder than recovery but was only 8:30. Meh, I'm over it.
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8 w/ 5 @ MP tomorrow morning.
John - SD is AWESOME for running and cycling. Wish I had done more of it myself when I was down there for school.
Kenny - Thanks! I'm surprising myself with how well I'm handling these high mile weeks. Knock on wood.
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4 grinding "recovery" miles tonight. Pace felt harder than recovery but was only 8:30. Meh, I'm over it.
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8 w/ 5 @ MP tomorrow morning.
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Mike MacLellan wrote:Mark - I'm going to say no for now, but I wouldn't be too surprised to find myself thinking R2R2R sometime in 2013.
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Guess the cure-for-a-hangover comment found and tiptoed over the line. Note to self...
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5.07 recovery just now. Legs are surprisingly fresh, just a little tight. I could've gone way harder than I did, but eh, I'll save it for tomorrow's MP and Wednesday's GA. 4 more recovery tonight.
Good training Mike...Way to not push the recovery run. It is better to save for later in the week when you need to give that extra bit...Good luck!!
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Nick - Until I blow it by pushing a little on my second one. See the following:
I forgot to mention that about halfway through the run (the second one) I heard footsteps behind me and a Garmin beep. The steps were getting ever closer by the minute (literally a minute at a time), and when they sounded about 20' behind me I decided to be a dick and surge for a hundred meters or so. Quickly put a big gap on the person (didn't near them anymore) and rounded a corner. Looked back after rounding it, since they went straight, and saw that it was... a cute girl. Damnit.
I forgot to mention that about halfway through the run (the second one) I heard footsteps behind me and a Garmin beep. The steps were getting ever closer by the minute (literally a minute at a time), and when they sounded about 20' behind me I decided to be a dick and surge for a hundred meters or so. Quickly put a big gap on the person (didn't near them anymore) and rounded a corner. Looked back after rounding it, since they went straight, and saw that it was... a cute girl. Damnit.
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Mike MacLellan wrote:Nick - Until I blow it by pushing a little on my second one. See the following:
I forgot to mention that about halfway through the run (the second one) I heard footsteps behind me and a Garmin beep. The steps were getting ever closer by the minute (literally a minute at a time), and when they sounded about 20' behind me I decided to be a dick and surge for a hundred meters or so. Quickly put a big gap on the person (didn't near them anymore) and rounded a corner. Looked back after rounding it, since they went straight, and saw that it was... a cute girl. Damnit.
Doh!!! Note to self, "look behide to see who is catching you before taking off!!"
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Mike MacLellan wrote:Quickly put a big gap on the person (didn't near them anymore) and rounded a corner. Looked back after rounding it, since they went straight, and saw that it was... a cute girl. Damnit.
Tsk, tsk, tsk... another tragic victim of testosterone poisoning.
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Mike MacLellan wrote:Nick - Until I blow it by pushing a little on my second one. See the following:
I forgot to mention that about halfway through the run (the second one) I heard footsteps behind me and a Garmin beep. The steps were getting ever closer by the minute (literally a minute at a time), and when they sounded about 20' behind me I decided to be a dick and surge for a hundred meters or so. Quickly put a big gap on the person (didn't near them anymore) and rounded a corner. Looked back after rounding it, since they went straight, and saw that it was... a cute girl. Damnit.
HaHa that's what you get rookie!
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Schuey wrote:Mike MacLellan wrote:Nick - Until I blow it by pushing a little on my second one. See the following:
I forgot to mention that about halfway through the run (the second one) I heard footsteps behind me and a Garmin beep. The steps were getting ever closer by the minute (literally a minute at a time), and when they sounded about 20' behind me I decided to be a dick and surge for a hundred meters or so. Quickly put a big gap on the person (didn't near them anymore) and rounded a corner. Looked back after rounding it, since they went straight, and saw that it was... a cute girl. Damnit.
HaHa that's what you get rookie!
I guess that we learn from our mistakes...
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Man, you guys are harsh! In my defense, I'm a one-woman man. For the next two weeks.
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Just over 8 miles this morning, 6.09 @ MP... 6:49 average on constant rolling hills (100-150') with a net elevation gain of ~50'. It wasn't easy finding a groove (I wonder why) and the effort was slightly harder than last time... But hey, I still came in 1 second under pace and the NGP was 6:40, so I'll say it was a successful run. Looking forward to this pace feeling more comfortable, though, that's for sure.
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Just over 8 miles this morning, 6.09 @ MP... 6:49 average on constant rolling hills (100-150') with a net elevation gain of ~50'. It wasn't easy finding a groove (I wonder why) and the effort was slightly harder than last time... But hey, I still came in 1 second under pace and the NGP was 6:40, so I'll say it was a successful run. Looking forward to this pace feeling more comfortable, though, that's for sure.
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Good running!
My mom always told me all the young guys were faster than I was in the marathon and I was just running with the old ones. I needed to speed up if I were to meet a nice guy my own age.
My mom always told me all the young guys were faster than I was in the marathon and I was just running with the old ones. I needed to speed up if I were to meet a nice guy my own age.
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Julie wrote:Good running!
My mom always told me all the young guys were faster than I was in the marathon and I was just running with the old ones. I needed to speed up if I were to meet a nice guy my own age.
Ah, moms. What are you going to do?
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Thanks folks. Second run was a little better, but my left hamstring's been niggling lately and it was... well, pretty obnoxious tonight. Just tight and made me have to really stick to good form. Need to stretch it out before tomorrow's 15.
4.07 @ 7:53, mostly on pancake flat roads.
4.07 @ 7:53, mostly on pancake flat roads.
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Mike MacLellan wrote:Thanks folks. Second run was a little better, but my left hamstring's been niggling lately and it was... well, pretty obnoxious tonight. Just tight and made me have to really stick to good form. Need to stretch it out before tomorrow's 15.
4.07 @ 7:53, mostly on pancake flat roads.
Nice double yesterday. I hope that your niggle goes away and doesn't become an issue. Good luck with your 15 today...
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Mark B wrote:Mike MacLellan wrote:Quickly put a big gap on the person (didn't near them anymore) and rounded a corner. Looked back after rounding it, since they went straight, and saw that it was... a cute girl. Damnit.
Tsk, tsk, tsk... another tragic victim of testosterone poisoning.
Ha ha, better luck next time.
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Mike,
Lets think it as niggle. Carry on but be aware not beware! 15 in the books yet!
Lets think it as niggle. Carry on but be aware not beware! 15 in the books yet!
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Nick and Kenny - Good news; it was just a niggle, and after a couple miles ("no effort, no effort, no effort") it mostly went away. The parts of today's run that I was most concerned would make it flare up (the short and steep hills on the trail section) did nothing to make me even aware of it. Of course, it showed up as soon as I stopped running and walked up my street, but that's pretty typical for me.
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Today's run was actually 16. I thought it was a 2-hour, but apparently I changed it on my most recent tinkering with my training plan. Either way, that worked out perfectly, as it's just under 8 to this water fountain/rest area on a local trail, and the "bad" part of the trail - the short, steep hills - is only about 2-2.5 miles long.
I was really not mentally into this run when I woke up. Nor was I into it when I started. All I could think is that the niggle+my apathy=I need a cutback week. This all changed by the end of the run...
Promised myself not to look at the watch until I turned around, because I didn't want to race a specific time today. So, I just cruised at an easy pace and let whatever happened happen. Was averaging 7:57s when I turned, and that included a 40 second pee/water stop. Took a quick swig of water from the fountain and headed back. Again, took it easy and let the paces come to me. Reminded myself that running is to clear my mind and lower my stress, not to add to it. This worked well.
Overall, 16.02 @ 7:45 average. My NGP was 7:35, 1 second slower than my NGP for the same course (except I cut it 2 miles shorter each way, so 12 miles total) 2 weeks ago, and my average HR was the same (146bpm). I like it. Apparently, my HR drift was also less than 1% (this compares HR to NGP) for the entire run. I like it even more.
Still looking forward to the cutback week next week, but I think I'll make it through the rest of this one just fine.
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Oh, and apparently there's a fake me on Facebook. I LOL'ed.
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Today's run was actually 16. I thought it was a 2-hour, but apparently I changed it on my most recent tinkering with my training plan. Either way, that worked out perfectly, as it's just under 8 to this water fountain/rest area on a local trail, and the "bad" part of the trail - the short, steep hills - is only about 2-2.5 miles long.
I was really not mentally into this run when I woke up. Nor was I into it when I started. All I could think is that the niggle+my apathy=I need a cutback week. This all changed by the end of the run...
Promised myself not to look at the watch until I turned around, because I didn't want to race a specific time today. So, I just cruised at an easy pace and let whatever happened happen. Was averaging 7:57s when I turned, and that included a 40 second pee/water stop. Took a quick swig of water from the fountain and headed back. Again, took it easy and let the paces come to me. Reminded myself that running is to clear my mind and lower my stress, not to add to it. This worked well.
Overall, 16.02 @ 7:45 average. My NGP was 7:35, 1 second slower than my NGP for the same course (except I cut it 2 miles shorter each way, so 12 miles total) 2 weeks ago, and my average HR was the same (146bpm). I like it. Apparently, my HR drift was also less than 1% (this compares HR to NGP) for the entire run. I like it even more.
Still looking forward to the cutback week next week, but I think I'll make it through the rest of this one just fine.
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Oh, and apparently there's a fake me on Facebook. I LOL'ed.
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