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Post  Kevin L on Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:36 am

I have yet to find my perfect shoes - maybe you guys can help. Currently I'm rotating on Minimus Road and a few ASICS. However the ASICS have got to go with 600 miles give or take. I've been looking for something with a low stack height and close to zero-drop. The Minimus Road is really close to my ideal shoe, except the minor arch support that I hate. Also, I would consider training in flats that have a roomy toebox for my wide Donald Duck feet. Lastly, this whole package should come with a reasonable price tag, and last over 600 miles on the road. Am I asking too much?
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Post  T Miller on Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:32 am

Have you tried the Nike free run +? I think it comes close on all of your requirements but I'm not sure about the stack height.
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Post  Dave-O on Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:37 am

I don't have a good recommendation (because the Lunar Racers have a narrow tox box), but I will say that its not really reasonable to expect a minimalist racing flat to last 600 miles on the road.
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Post  JohnP on Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:43 am

I think you should throw in world peace and maybe a deal on the US debt situation into the requirements!
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Post  Admin on Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:44 am

Yes, you're asking too much.

If you want minimal with a wide toe box, look at the Mizuno Universe. You can't get any lighter or more flat. However, you ain't gonna get 600 miles out of them... and they aren't cheap.

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Post  Kevin L on Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:56 am

@T Miller wrote:Have you tried the Nike free run +? I think it comes close on all of your requirements but I'm not sure about the stack height.

Thanks for the suggestion. I've got a pair of those. They're flexible but with a significant heel-drop. Also too pillowy for my taste - and they pick up pebbles so easily.

@JohnP wrote:I think you should throw in world peace and maybe a deal on the US debt situation into the requirements!

World peace maybe. US debt? Now that's asking too much for sure.


You guys are absolutely right - it's unrealistic to try to get 600 miles on road flats. Maybe I'll look for closeout sales for some old model flats around $50 and try to get 400~500 miles. I am interested in the Mizuno Universe.
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Post  Neil Ruggiero on Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:40 am

If you're getting into minimalist shoes, then you really don't need cushioning and really should be able to get more than 600 miles out of a pair of shoes unless the soles or upper themselves break. Cuz if you're running with good form, you don't need the cushioning which is usually the reason you people don't run a lot of miles on a single pair of shoes.
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Post  Kevin L on Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:47 am

I agree. I usually don't throw shoes away til there are holes on the upper. I'm not that heavy - and I have 600 miles on 2 out of 4 pairs in my current rotation. It's just that as I'm gradually changing my running form, I find huge heels really cumbersome.
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Post  Admin on Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:51 am

The tread on the Mizuno Universe won't last 600 miles. Hell, it won't last 200 miles. It has no real cushion at all.

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Post  Kevin L on Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:53 am

With my weekly mileage that's out of my budget...
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Post  Julie on Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:53 am

I can't get 500 miles out of my very non minimalist Sauconys...
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Post  Kevin L on Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:12 pm

"Very non minimalist" reminds me of those Sketchers Shape-ups.
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:02 pm

I actually get 200-225 miles out of my Brooks Launch lighter trainers (they approach a minimalist shoe), but I bet the toe box runs too narrow.

Interestingly, I get less mileage out of heavier trainers - I said that I ran lighter on the lighter weight ones.
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Post  Nick Morris on Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:52 pm

I am partial to Mizuno

Mushas or Ronins

The Elixirs are a light trainer...
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Post  Gobbles on Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:14 pm

Try out a pair of Saucony Kinvaras or Brooks Green Silence.
I get about 400 miles out of Kinvaras, and around 300 miles out of the Brooks.
I only got about 200-300 miles out of Asic Cumulus 10s and Nimbus 10s.
I place very high pressure on my big toe and the ball of my foot, this is where the EVA (foam) fails on all my shoes.

Good Luck, I think 600 miles of quality training is too much to expect out of a shoe with resilient cushioning (EVA).
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Post  Kenny B. on Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:37 pm

@Nick Morris wrote:I am partial to Mizuno

Mushas or Ronins

The Elixirs are a light trainer...

I think The Ronins 2 or 3's are a good choice 7.5 and 7.0 respectively you can get a few hundred out of them maybe 300-400 depending on your size they are light the heel toe is not like some minimal shoes but I see now bothersome as all with heel. Toe box should be ample especially the 2's. The 3's are a bit narrower IMO but both are winners. I use them for most runs except recovery.
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Post  mountandog on Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:54 pm

@Gobbles wrote:Try out a pair of Saucony Kinvaras or Brooks Green Silence.
I get about 400 miles out of Kinvaras, and around 300 miles out of the Brooks.
I only got about 200-300 miles out of Asic Cumulus 10s and Nimbus 10s.
I place very high pressure on my big toe and the ball of my foot, this is where the EVA (foam) fails on all my shoes.

Good Luck, I think 600 miles of quality training is too much to expect out of a shoe with resilient cushioning (EVA).

I am getting between 400-450 miles on my Kinvaras. On my third pair with good consistency. Lightweight. Reasonably priced. If you're lighter then I bet you can get more miles than me. Only a 4mm drop too.
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Post  Kevin L on Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:09 pm

I very much appreciate all your inputs. I have been reading reviews since Kinvara 1 came out. I might give Kinvara 2 a try, until something new turns up. I'm very curious about how the Brooks Pure Project will compare to NB's Minimus line.
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