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Post  Jack_Scaff on Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:17 pm

Interesting article in the NYT



http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/24/nonalcoholic-beer-aids-marathon-recovery/?src=me&ref=general



A new study reports that beer is an excellent recovery beverage for marathon runners. But you may not want to start a raucous celebration just yet. The beer was effective only if it was nonalcoholic.



Alcoholic beer happens to be drenched in polyphenols, too — “even more than nonalcoholic beer,” Dr. Scherr said — but has the signal disadvantage of being alcoholic. “We do not know whether the side effects of alcoholic beer would cancel out the positive effects caused by the polyphenols,” he wrote. “Furthermore, it is not possible to drink one to one and a half liters of alcoholic beer per day, especially not during strenuous training.” We all knew that, right?



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1. What is the point of non-alcoholic beer?

2. I too have the signal disadvantage of being an alcoholic.

3. 1.0-1.5L/day? Pfft. And this is GERMAN research?
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Post  Nick Morris on Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:53 pm

Dang...and I was looking forward to that post race beer, too...Now they are saying it has to non-alcoholic...wah, wah
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Post  healdgator on Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:01 pm

This was soooooooooooo close to being the greatest news ever.
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Post  Jack_Scaff on Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:16 pm

@healdgator wrote:This was soooooooooooo close to being the greatest news ever.



I know of a soon to be released book on running that will discuss the benefits of "adult" beer for runners.
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Post  Kevin L on Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:51 pm

This is so anticlimactic...
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Post  healdgator on Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:33 pm

@Jack_Scaff wrote:
@healdgator wrote:This was soooooooooooo close to being the greatest news ever.



I know of a soon to be released book on running that will discuss the benefits of "adult" beer for runners.

That day will be the greatest day of my life.
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Post  Tom H on Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:10 pm

I think further research is called for on this. Jack, will you please take the point?
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Post  Nick Morris on Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:16 pm

@Tom H wrote:I think further research is called for on this. Jack, will you please take the point?

I'll try to get started on this after October 9th...
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Post  Mike MacLellan on Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:07 am

I drank some beer during a marathon. Granted, I was pacing someone and only ran the back 16 of it. Still, it went over fairly well.
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Post  Jack_Scaff on Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:31 pm

@Tom H wrote:I think further research is called for on this. Jack, will you please take the point?



Well, since you asked - this is from "the book". Apologies for the format - it is just a PDF conversion...



Beer is very specific for exercise-induced cramps. One reason is that it contains alcohol, a muscle relaxant. Cramps, particularly after running, are a very complex subject, one on which entire chapters have been written. I've read them and will not bore you with repeating the data.

In any case, beer is specific for cramps for several reasons:

1. Beer contains fluids (but so do other beverages).

2. Beer contains carbohydrates (but so do other beverages).

3. Beer contains electrolytes particularly sodium, potassium, calcium and iron (but so do other beverages, however, generally not in the same amount).

4. Beer contains alcohol—a relaxant—(other beverages don't). Alcohol relieves muscle cramps in two specific fashions:

a)Alcohol is a muscle relaxant and is specific for muscle cramps at their site of origin (the tissue level) working as a relaxant and an anesthetic.

b)Beer (alcohol) causes central euphoria, i.e., it diminishes your perception of pain. So, if you do have cramps, you don't care as much.

Caveat:

At the conclusion of the marathon if you see a fellow finisher walking "crab-like," you might want to offer him a beer or two, (if he has a designated driver and a place to sit, lest he become light­headed). Wait 20 minutes. Then evaluate him to see if he is doing as well or better than if he had gone to a shiatsu tent (that's also neat and worth trying as well, especially after having had a beer). If he is not better, take him to a first aid station.

While not commonly known, a well-stocked finish line aid station frequent­ly has a case or two of chilled beer. It's not for the physicians or nurses; it's for the individual with cramps because a can or two of beer that relieves cramps is far cheaper than administrating intravenous solutions or a trip to the E.R.

What? You've just learned that the aid station at your finish line is under stocked. Perhaps sharing this chapter along with a gentle admonishment might help!
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to cheer both great and small.
Little fools drink too much
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Post  Jack_Scaff on Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:41 pm

@Tom H wrote:I think further research is called for on this. Jack, will you please take the point?



And then there is is...Credit due to "Your First Marathon - the Last Word in Long-Distance Running" available soon.



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Post  Tom H on Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:45 pm

@Jack_Scaff wrote:
@Tom H wrote:I think further research is called for on this. Jack, will you please take the point?



Well, since you asked - this is from "the book". Apologies for the format - it is just a PDF conversion...



Beer is very specific for exercise-induced cramps. One reason is that it contains alcohol, a muscle relaxant. Cramps, particularly after running, are a very complex subject, one on which entire chapters have been written. I've read them and will not bore you with repeating the data.

In any case, beer is specific for cramps for several reasons:

1. Beer contains fluids (but so do other beverages).

2. Beer contains carbohydrates (but so do other beverages).

3. Beer contains electrolytes particularly sodium, potassium, calcium and iron (but so do other beverages, however, generally not in the same amount).

4. Beer contains alcohol—a relaxant—(other beverages don't). Alcohol relieves muscle cramps in two specific fashions:

a)Alcohol is a muscle relaxant and is specific for muscle cramps at their site of origin (the tissue level) working as a relaxant and an anesthetic.

b)Beer (alcohol) causes central euphoria, i.e., it diminishes your perception of pain. So, if you do have cramps, you don't care as much.

Caveat:

At the conclusion of the marathon if you see a fellow finisher walking "crab-like," you might want to offer him a beer or two, (if he has a designated driver and a place to sit, lest he become light­headed). Wait 20 minutes. Then evaluate him to see if he is doing as well or better than if he had gone to a shiatsu tent (that's also neat and worth trying as well, especially after having had a beer). If he is not better, take him to a first aid station.

While not commonly known, a well-stocked finish line aid station frequent­ly has a case or two of chilled beer. It's not for the physicians or nurses; it's for the individual with cramps because a can or two of beer that relieves cramps is far cheaper than administrating intravenous solutions or a trip to the E.R.

What? You've just learned that the aid station at your finish line is under stocked. Perhaps sharing this chapter along with a gentle admonishment might help!
"God in his goodness sent the grape
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Little fools drink too much
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Actually, I kinda expected you to be the research subject . . .
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