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Post  nkrichards Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:31 pm

I booked my hotel for Boston through Marathon Tours and they sent an email about a bus tour of the route they do either Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning.  The cost is $30 and it lasts about 3 hours.  So what do you think?  It's my first trip to Boston and although I've heard a lot about the route I really don't know that much about it.  Is this worth my time?  If so should I choose Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning.  (We arrive in Boston Friday evening.)  If a 365 get-together is planned when is that usually scheduled?

While I'm asking questions...anything that I should (or shouldn't) try and do while I'm in Boston?  We (my daughter is traveling with me) arrive Friday evening and fly out Tuesday afternoon.  This is our first trip to Boston but we're headed back to Boston in October for some real sightseeing.

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Post  ounce Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:50 pm

Miche1e is your Official 365 go to person for everything Boston.  This is a free service as part of your dues to 365runners.com  Wink
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:06 pm

My question, Nancy is do you care about knowing the course before hand?  If you are racing, then I guess it could be a benefit, but if not, I think you know that the hills start at mile 16 and last until 20 and prior to that, just don't run too fast like always do through my hometown, and you should be fine.

As for what to see in Boston? Again, if you are racing, then just do the Expo and the basics around the city like Boston Common and the Public Garden if it is a nice day.  If you are leaving later on Tuesday, try to take in the Sam Adams brewery tour as they give you a real cool pint glass commemorating the race.  I'm going to do it on Tuesday morning with my friend Joe from Atlanta and any one else interested.  Another cool thing to do is to take the Red line (subway) to Harvard Square and walk out into the academic quad at the school.  

The get together has typically been on Saturday late afternoon (5 ish) at the Prudential Center Food Court.  This is only steps from the Expo which is at the Hynes Auditorium which is where the Prudential Building is located.  If people are interested and staying fairly close to the Boston finish area, then we could organize an informal shake out run on Sunday morning.  Joe and I usually do an easy 2-3 miles on the Esplanande (the path along the Charles River which separates Boston from Cambridge.
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Post  nkrichards Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:29 pm

Definitely not racing this one Michelle.  I was thinking the tour provided some history and trivia about the race which might be fun from the standpoint of a running tourist.  I think you're right though...if I'm not racing, I don't need to travel the course.  I think I'd rather make sure I have time for the 365 get-togethers.

My plan is to train for a race and then hope I can run smart (conservatively) enough to make it a good 26.2 mile run.  I can't quite wrap my head around time goals yet...I want to run slow enough to really enjoy the experience and finish strong with a smile on my face but I also don't want to just dawdle along.

Would love to join in on the Sunday morning run...I'll watch for details.

Is the Sam Adams Brewery tour something I need to sign up for soon?  I'll have time to do that on Tuesday as I don't leave till late afternoon/early evening.

Thanks for the info...not sure why this trip/run has me sooooo nervous.
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Post  Mike MacLellan Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:05 pm

FWIW, I drove the course with my family before the race.  Aileen fell asleep during the drive.  I didn't find it particularly pretty, but it was beneficial to see the hill that comes super early on (mile 1?), as I didn't realize that was there.  Otherwise, eh, not necessary IMO.
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Post  Tim C Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:06 pm

Sam Adams tour???  One more reason I'd really like to qualify some day.... Shots
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Post  Mark B Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:06 pm

Tim C wrote:Sam Adams tour???  One more reason I'd really like to qualify some day.... Shots

Amen! Very Happy
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:48 pm

Don't worry about the brewery tour - it is something you can do separately and I'll get the details from Joe.  Joe, by the way, and you are probably in the same corral.  He is a Boston vet and can guide you through the beginning.

The first 3 miles are basically downhill and the first small climb is round mile 5 in Framingham, then it is relatively flat through my hometown of Natick and Wellesley - some small rollers, but nothing much.  There is then a good downhill around mile 15 into the Newton Lower Falls before you climb over the highway and past the hospital.  About 1/2 mile after that, the hills begin.  Remember each one goes up and comes down and Heartbreak is actually nothing, but it is at mile 20.  Once you reach Boston College (BC), it is pretty much downhill from there with the occasional riser.
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Post  Mike MacLellan Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:52 pm

Michele \"1L" Keane wrote:Don't worry about the brewery tour - it is something you can do separately and I'll get the details from Joe.  Joe, by the way, and you are probably in the same corral.  He is a Boston vet and can guide you through the beginning.

The first 3 miles are basically downhill and the first small climb is round mile 5 in Framingham, then it is relatively flat through my hometown of Natick and Wellesley - some small rollers, but nothing much.  There is then a good downhill around mile 15 into the Newton Lower Falls before you climb over the highway and past the hospital.  About 1/2 mile after that, the hills begin.  Remember each one goes up and comes down and Heartbreak is actually nothing, but it is at mile 20.  Once you reach Boston College (BC), it is pretty much downhill from there with the occasional riser.

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait, there's a stinger in the first mile or two.  I remember hitting that thing like a wall.  Otherwise, I agree.
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:30 pm

Nope not really Mike.  The first hill is really around 5.
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Post  Nick Morris Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:51 pm

Michele \"1L" Keane wrote:Nope not really Mike.  The first hill is really around 5.

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Post  Mike MacLellan Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:11 pm

Michele \"1L" Keane wrote:Nope not really Mike.  The first hill is really around 5.
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Look, it's almost as big as the one at mile 5.
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Post  nkrichards Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:48 pm

Thanks for the input...and the entertainment!

I am trying to make sure I get some hilly miles in...and more downhill miles than previous training cycles.

I think the biggest factor for me will be making sure I respect the course and remember that I'm not going to be as prepared for this marathon as I was when I ran my BQ.  An appropriate goal and a conservative start are going to be vital to ensuring that I finish with a smile on my face!!!!
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:29 am

Mike MacLellan wrote:
Michele \"1L" Keane wrote:Nope not really Mike.  The first hill is really around 5.
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Look, it's almost as big as the one at mile 5.
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Post  mountandog Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:56 pm

nkrichards wrote:Thanks for the input...and the entertainment!

I am trying to make sure I get some hilly miles in...and more downhill miles than previous training cycles.

I think the biggest factor for me will be making sure I respect the course and remember that I'm not going to be as prepared for this marathon as I was when I ran my BQ.  An appropriate goal and a conservative start are going to be vital to ensuring that I finish with a smile on my face!!!!
do lots of downhill.  Your quads are going to scream anyways, but you might as well hope they scream on Tuesday and not Monday.  Some fast downhill repeats every other week will do you wonders.
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Post  nkrichards Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:47 pm

mountandog wrote:
nkrichards wrote:Thanks for the input...and the entertainment!

I am trying to make sure I get some hilly miles in...and more downhill miles than previous training cycles.

I think the biggest factor for me will be making sure I respect the course and remember that I'm not going to be as prepared for this marathon as I was when I ran my BQ.  An appropriate goal and a conservative start are going to be vital to ensuring that I finish with a smile on my face!!!!
do lots of downhill.  Your quads are going to scream anyways, but you might as well hope they scream on Tuesday and not Monday.  Some fast downhill repeats every other week will do you wonders.

You aren't the first one who has recommended doing some downhill running in preparation for Boston.  I've been trying to get some longer downhill segments on some of my runs but I like the idea of replacing a couple of my track workouts with some downhill repeats.  Thanks for the suggestion.
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Post  Nick Morris Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:02 pm

nkrichards wrote:
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nkrichards wrote:Thanks for the input...and the entertainment!

I am trying to make sure I get some hilly miles in...and more downhill miles than previous training cycles.

I think the biggest factor for me will be making sure I respect the course and remember that I'm not going to be as prepared for this marathon as I was when I ran my BQ.  An appropriate goal and a conservative start are going to be vital to ensuring that I finish with a smile on my face!!!!
do lots of downhill.  Your quads are going to scream anyways, but you might as well hope they scream on Tuesday and not Monday.  Some fast downhill repeats every other week will do you wonders.

You aren't the first one who has recommended doing some downhill running in preparation for Boston.  I've been trying to get some longer downhill segments on some of my runs but I like the idea of replacing a couple of my track workouts with some downhill repeats.  Thanks for the suggestion.

I would actually do downhill and uphill repeats in the same workout. Might as well work on the ups, since you are going down anyways Smile
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